Poker Royal Flush Vs Royal Flush

An ace high straight flush, such as Ad Kd Qd Jd 10d is called a royal flush, and is the highest ranked hand in standard poker, without wild cards. Four of a kind Also known as quads, four of a kind is a hand like 7h 7s 7c 7d 2s, that has four cards of the same rank, and one other card. The Royal Flush gutshot draw and the pure Royal Flush draw. It's become easier to learn and understand poker than ever before. Knowing the various poker hand rankings is important for beginners, even trying to play the game.

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odiousgambit

I don't think either recipient set it right...


did they ask to have it set the House Way? I could see the dealer setting it wrong too.Royal
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rdw4potus
i agree, but I think my fellow players would have set that as quad aces with QJ up:-)
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sodawater
I'd set it as the royal with the KQ suited in the low hand just to make it easier for everyone to read my huge bonus hand.
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In my experience, to play your best odds it has to be AJoker up top, KKQQJ in the back. EXCEPT Harrah's LV for years paid a different schedule, where you had to keep a hand together to pay its value (the Rio did this too when they opened up, but quickly changed to what everybody else was doing, which was paying the bonus regardless how the hand was set). Harrah's paid a higher rate as well for FH because of this (6:1 FH instead of 5:1, with a pair it paid 12:1). So it depended on your base bet to bonus bet ratio how you might set the hand, as a FH/non-second pair was almost always a push, but 3OAK with a pair set was mostly a winner. House way was to always split the FH for the highest possible top. If I had this hand at Harrah's during this time, I would've held it for the bonus, because the worst it would do is push and pay. I'm pretty sure they finally dumped that paytable; nobody else, including their own properties in other places, was using it to my knowledge. And, even at Harrah's, if you're NOT playing the bonus, the Ajoker top is the only way to go.
This hand is similar in strategy to the 2 hand rule when you have a flush, straight, or straight flush in the hand, but also 2 pairs. It's almost always right to split the pairs and go for the win. That's the house way as well (there are a few exceptions, like 2 small pair and a flush or straight that includes the ace, most houses will keep the 2 small pair together and play ace whatever up top) but in either case, disregarding the flush or straight. However, if you (not the house) have a huge (say 8x base) bet on the ante, there are times when you virtually concede it will be a push and hold the straight/flush with no top (splitting your two pairs) just to protect the big bet. I think you have to decide what your tolerance for the riskier play will be (though there are those on here marvelous with numbers to tell you your chances); I tend to chicken out and protect the base bet at around 4x base. Generally, though, it's best to play as strong a top as the hand will allow; the house doesn't play to win, they play NOT TO LOSE, so there are times when it pays to be aggressive. Keep in mind that all houses seem to have slightly different house way rules, and find out what they are before you start. All in my experience....now to go see what the Wiz's numbers say about it. lol...Flush
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EXCEPT Harrah's LV for years paid a different schedule, where you had to keep a hand together to pay its value (the Rio did this too when they opened up, but quickly changed to what everybody else was doing, which was paying the bonus regardless how the hand was set). Harrah's paid a higher rate as well for FH because of this (6:1 FH instead of 5:1, with a pair it paid 12:1). So it depended on your base bet to bonus bet ratio how you might set the hand, as a FH/non-second pair was almost always a push, but 3OAK with a pair set was mostly a winner. House way was to always split the FH for the highest possible top. If I had this hand at Harrah's during this time, I would've held it for the bonus, because the worst it would do is push and pay. I'm pretty sure they finally dumped that paytable; nobody else, including their own properties in other places, was using it to my knowledge. And, even at Harrah's, if you're NOT playing the bonus, the Ajoker top is the only way to go.


FlushLate to the party, but was reading old threads and found this. What you're describing is a game called Jackpot Pai Gow Poker. I've never seen it anywhere, and like you said, it's probably been completely abandoned. I do have one story regarding it though.
My boss's friend was playing at (I think) Harrah's, and was playing the Jackpot Pai Gow table, but either had no idea that he wasn't playing Fortune or didn't know the difference. He was dealt Five Aces, and he played it like you would ordinarily play it (AAAxx/A*). Whoops. He got paid for trips. He asked the dealer 'Why didn't you tell me I had to keep them together to get paid?!' The dealer responded that he would have been instantly fired if he did.
It's not hard to see why the game faded away. Many people probably became disgusted with the game by basically being tricked into throwing away a massive payout. Imagine getting a natural 7-card and not even getting paid 50:1 (Jackpot pays 30:1 for a straight flush). Interestingly though, Jackpot Pai Gow offers a tremendously low house advantage if played optimally, never going any higher than 2.36%. The additional edge must be in player errors such as not knowing you can't break up your bonus.
Casinos are not your friends, they want your money. But so does Disneyland. And there is no chance in hell that you will go to Disneyland and come back with more money than you went with. - AxelWolf and Mickeycrimm
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  • Poker rules can be confusing at times. You might think you know them all, but then during your play with friends, you come upon a situation, and you are unsure of the rule. One such scenario that might confuse you is when you see two players having a flush. So who wins? The answer is pretty clear to an experienced player like myself, and after reading this article, it will be simple for you to know next time also.

    A player with the highest flush rank wins. If both players have the flush of the same rank, then the pot would get split between them. This, of course, holds true only if no one else has a card combination higher than a flush.

    Flush is a very powerful hand in poker. You are expected to dominate your opponents very often once you hit it. Therefore it is no surprise it doesn’t usually happen that you get to hit one. You will hit a flush only 0.2% percent of the time. There is a common misconception that a flush is easier to hit, but in fact, you will hit flush half as often as you hit a straight (0.4% chance to hit a straight). And because a flush is harder to hit, your winrate with flush will be higher than with a straight.

    It is very crucial to play the right hands to maximize your chances of hitting a flush.

    Best cards to hit a flush are high suited hands. AK suited is, of course, the best one to have, followed by AQ suited. Your winrate will still be high with all of the suited broadway hands (JTs, QTs, KTs, ATs, QJs, KJs, AJs, KQs, AQs, and AKs).

    Of course, you can hit a flush with a non-suited hand also, but having a suited hand with increase your chances to hit a flush by a lot.

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    Bigger cards are better for hitting a flush

    Why is a high double suited hand a lot better than the lower double suited hand? If you play AKs, AQs, or AJs, you will always have the nut flush (ace-high flush) when you hit a flush compared to 98s. A flush is a very strong hand, no matter how high your flush is. It is tough to lay down a flush, even to strong bets.

    If you hit the nut flush on 5hKcThJh7s board with AhQh and your opponent has 8h9h, it will be very tough of him to fold his flush (AQTJ5 high flush wins against JT895 high flush because it has higher ranking cards). It will also be very tough for you to hold a low flush when you are facing bets, after all, you beat many hands that are willing to bet – all sets, two pairs, some smaller flushes, and bluffs.

    Therefore you must be on the winning side of a flush as often as possible. And big suited cards do exactly that.

    Please note, due to the little chance of having a straight flush of 0.0014%, I just assume that Ace-high flush is the nut flush, and an opponent doesn’t have a straight flush, which would beat our ace-high flush.

    One exception – When the bigger cards are not always better

    There is one situation where having AKs is not optimal. It only matters when you hit a flush. In such a scenario, I would rather have any other ace-high flush but the AK high flush. That way, I can know that someoneelse might be holding a 2nd nut flush (K high flush) as I don’t hold the K myself. Some players might be folding lower flushes, but almost no one folds 2nd nut K high flush. And nobody can beat me anyway if I hold the A high flush in my hand.

    The chance to hit a flush is already low, and it happens even less often that someone has second nut flush. In all the other scenarios, it is better to have AK than AQ or lower, as our kicker is very valuable. This is also the reason that my winrate with AKs is still a lot higher than with AJs. Most of the time, when we hit a flush, our opponent will not have a flush.

    But the times when you see two players showing a flush do happen and it is important to distinguish from 3 possible scenarios:

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    1. One person has a lower flush, and another person has a higher flush
    2. Both players have a flush of the same rank
    3. One player has a straight flush (with lower cards), and another player has a higher flush, but just a flush.

    Higher vs. Lower Flush

    The rules of poker are simple. A player that has a higher flush will win the hand. It doesn’t matter if both players have a flush; it only matters who has the highest flush.

    The value of the flush goes from lowest possible flush 23457 of the same suit, and not 23456 as this would also give us a straight flush, which is better than a normal flush. The value of flush goes all the way up to AKQJ9 of the same suit, and this is the biggest flush possible without having the strongest hand in poker – royal flush (AKQJT of the same suit).

    The highest flush beats not only all the lower flushes that will not be folding to our huge bets, but it also beats all sets (trips), two pairs, and pairs.

    If you don’t have the nut flush yourself (highest possible flush, depending on the board), then chances are someone else can have it. Scenarios where you have 2nd nut flush, and someone else holds the nut flush will happen, and you will pay him off. This will reduce your winrate. But all the other times you are up against worse hands you will make a lot of money. Any flush is a great hand to have as it beats so many other worse hands.

    Who wins if both players have a flush of the same rank

    In the case when both players have the same flush at showdown, and no one else has a better hand than this flush, then the pot would get split between them. First, the rake would get deducted from the pot, and afterward, the pot gets equally split.

    Who wins if there is a flush on the table?

    Scenario, where both players have the flush of the same rank, is only possible if a flush is present on the table. There is no other option, as that is the only way that both players have all 5 cards of the same rank and same suit.

    In my poker career (more than 5 million hands played online), I have seen quite some flushes on the board. A few scenarios are possible:

    1. Nobody has a stronger hand than the flush on the board: When nobody has a higher card of the same suit in the hole cards (in their hand) at showdown, then the pot would get equally split among the players that are still involved in the hand at showdown. Of course, if you fold before the showdown, then you give up on your hand and can’t win the pot (get equal share in this scenario).
    2. Someone has a better hand: If there isn’t a royal flush on the board, then chances are some player can have a bigger flush. Remember, in poker, the player that has the best 5 card combination wins. So on a 5689T all hearts, any player having J of hearts or higher still beats 5689T flush. But if someone has 7 of hearts, then that player will have the better nuts. As 6789T of hearts will give him a straight flush and the better hand combination. If someone would hold QhJh they would have the absolute nuts (QJT98 high straight flush).

    Straight flush vs. Ace-high flush

    If, by any chance, you come upon a situation where one player has a straight flush, and another player has an ace-high flush, then the rules are simple here also. A straight flush is a better hand and wins against any other non-straight flush and against all lower straight flushes (if both players have a straight flush, then the one with higher straight flush wins).

    You will hit a straight flush once roughly every 72,000 hands. When on the other hand, you will hit a flush once every 508 hands. So it makes sense that a straight flush wins.

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    Now you know of all the possible scenarios where two players might have the flush. You know correctly who wins and when the pots get split. I am sure there will be no more confusion next time when you see two players have hit a flush.